Don’t Sing the Job-Hunting Blues!
- Posted by: Barbara Wulf
- On: 01/24/2008 20:09:55
- In: Job Seeker - Interview
The in-between time in a job search can be a lonely, isolating time. Waiting…it’s a hard place to be in a job search.
You created the resume. You composed the cover letter. You bought the suit to dress for success. You applied for various job openings and now you wait. You wait for the phone to ring inviting you to interview. You wait to learn of job leads. Waiting…it’s a hard place to be in a job search.
The in-between time in a job search can be a lonely, isolating time. Suddenly, it seems like everyone is working except you. The job search can make you feel benched, out of the game and more of a spectator rather than a player. It’s easy to get the job-hunting blues…that place of being in limbo.
Often, our mindset can be our enemy or ally. It’s a matter of perspective. The negative mindset can start to gnaw at us with belittling comments. We can start to second-guess ourselves with questions regarding our performance, what we could have done differently, how we could have prevented our situation, and so on.
The feelings of leaving or losing a job when nothing better is on the immediate horizon are described in the Kubler-Ross Model on Death and Dying. Kubler-Ross identified the five stages as denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance (not necessarily in order). Likewise, not having income, loss of benefits and losing a sense of belonging and security are part of the grief process…so is waiting.
While you are in this place, you might feel the sense of the cup as half full. It’s an important time for self-care. The dark skies will eventually clear, but taking care of you, reaching out to others and accepting an outreached hand can make the journey less agonizing.
Here are some tips to help you cope with the job-hunting blues:
- Read - Reading for pleasure, relaxation, escape…either way, it’s a good time to let your mind be engaged. Research companies or educational opportunities. Make a trip to the library. Consider reading to your children as well.
- Reflect - The question is, what’s next? Take time to ponder the question. This time in your life can provide insight into your strengths, values and what you contribute to the workplace. Maybe it’s time to retool, return to school, relocate or explore a career change. Take time to be with the issues and uneasiness rather than avoid them. Write down your observations. Take time to deepen the learning as you prepare to forward your action.
- Exercise - It’s just what you might not feel like doing, but it is beneficial. This could be a good time to try yoga, lift weights, walk, use the exercise bike, play with your children, etc. Exercise is good for the heart and the mind. You might also enjoy the benefits of dropping some weight and firming up. The extra energy can be a boost to your job search and a healthier body can help you be more confident for future interviews.
- Network - You’re not the only one looking for work. You don’t have to be alone with the process of a job search. Meet a friend for coffee. Attend a job transition support group. Call the Workforce Development Center. Contact a temporary employment agency or outplacement specialist. Learn more about support opportunities and options in your area.
- Volunteer - There are opportunities all around. What do you enjoy? How could you contribute? Whether you sort food at a food shelf, visit a nursing home, or mow the lawn for an elderly neighbor, volunteering for a few hours can make a difference for you and them. Volunteering can be a form of networking as well.
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- Posted by: Randy
- On: 02/25/2008 14:16:58
Your article is right on track. I have been downsized and without a job for 4 weeks now. It is easy to begin second guessing yourself and wondering what lies ahead. Thanks for the up lift.Randy- #2
- Posted by: Effie Tsiakopoulos
- On: 02/25/2008 15:22:48
Wonderful website and very informative...a very good read indeed!- #3
- Posted by: Peggy shea
- On: 02/25/2008 15:53:11
The answers are all good ones. But, it doesn't get me the job. I have been out of work since last June and have travelled all over the US for potential employers. I always come in second. I have been living on my savings for 5 months and am in the process of having to sell my car and timeshare condo before digging into my 401K. There comes a time when you DON'T see the dark clouds parting. I have a great resume, I get great response and the only thing I can pinpoint is that employers don't want to take on people over 50 who are willing to downsize their salary expectations. I have offered to relocate myself too! To make matters worse, this is the second time this has happened in 6 years. Last time I was unemployed for 16 months and had to take a job 500 miles away in a place I didn't want to live. I am sorry, sometimes I don't even want to get out of bed in the morning, let alone just wake up to face another day of rejection.- #4
- Posted by: Jason
- On: 02/25/2008 15:57:11
I'm going on about 4 weeks too but with a few offers waiting for me but not till April or May. Trying to close a few other short term deals right now. Last time I was laid off, it took about 3-4 months to find the next job and it was rough and I went though everything listed above. I started working out and reading more and trying to relax and it helped tremendously. Try the stuff out, it works.- #5
- Posted by: Cami
- On: 02/25/2008 16:41:48
I agree with the feelings experience. I've been unemployed for several months now and have coped with the blues with each of the suggested remedies with only a few bad days here or there. I'm afraid that my acceptance of unemployement is going to make me travel through the stages backwards! I've become comfortable in filling my days with excercise, reading, and volunteering; however the bank account isn't! How to I find the determination and enthusiasm for the job search after acceptance?- #6
- Posted by: Theresa Nelson
- On: 02/25/2008 16:52:10
Your article reflected the five stages of Kubler-Ross. I have experienced them all. Early retirement since 5/07 has left me feeling all five. There seems to always be someone more effective or skillful and I have a Master's plus. So thanks for the encouragement in your article. I'll be back to your site. 2/25/08- #7
- Posted by: Carole
- On: 02/25/2008 17:00:03
I've been off since just before Christmas 2007 (this time by my own choice!). It can be tiresome and nervewracking to wait. I've spent time taking a technical writing class which I hope will broaden my appeal as a contractor and also it's something to mention on interviews to (hopefully) impress a future employer.- #8
- Posted by: Kathy Cochran
- On: 02/25/2008 17:32:02
I totally agree. Don't overlook the benefits of accepting a part time or temporary job while you search for something better. Helps to occupy the mind, keeps the routine established, and greatly assists with networking.- #9
- Posted by: Jim
- On: 02/25/2008 18:19:50
Good advice, but it doesn't pay the bills or get you a decent job. "Did you want fries with that?"- #10
- Posted by: Marla
- On: 02/25/2008 18:29:27
I've also been out of work for 3 months and have done all of the above. In addition, I've gotten back to doing the crafts I love to do but never had time for and I'm selling them on eBay (along with other things we never use from around the house). It's not a lot of profit, but it keeps me busy and feeling productive.- #11
- Posted by: JL
- On: 02/25/2008 18:44:54
This is my third time in 6 years of losing my job after having a 19 years maintaining a successful career. It has taken from 4 months to 6 months to find another position each time. The important pattern I have noticed is even if some of the jobs I have taken only lasted 6 months it has added to my qualifications for the next one. I am keeping faith this is all God's plan and in the end a great job will come my way for the final job until retirement. The bright side, I have learned many different skills and you wouldn't believe the home improvements I have learned to complete on finds at second hand and thrift stores. Painting has become my sounding board to sanity. I have to focus while painting or it looks terrible; not allowing me time to get down on myself.Get out of bed each day; trust me it is alot worse for others in lands far away. JL- #12
- Posted by: Bryan
- On: 02/25/2008 19:15:52
Exercise is key - if you lose your job and then start gaining weight, it is like a downward spiral. I was off for 4 months and got in the best shape of my life. I also read a lot, and of course, relentlessly job hunting.Keep in constant touch with as many friends and acquaintances as possible. You are out of work, you have time to schedule lunch a couple of times a week - stay relevant and visible, don't be tempted to crawl into a shell because of your circumstances.- #13
- Posted by: Shannon Speakman
- On: 02/25/2008 19:36:38
The article was helpful and very reassuring to know that there are many others in the exact same situation. I've tried coping but I've been unemployed for almost 2 months and can't afford rent in 2 weeks. I am at the end of my rope. There is no being positive for this girl....I am way past that stage [unfortunately].- #14
- Posted by: carla
- On: 02/25/2008 20:12:42
I have been off for 3 weeks now and am starting to doubt myself. I have reorganized my resume, tweeked my cover letters. I am in school too and find I spend more time sending off resumes than I do studying and it's starting to affect my grades. In the meantime I am working at a reduced salary for a friend of mine until I can find something or she no longer needs my help. I just hope and pray I find something before she no longer needs me. It seems to be hard out there even though there is an abundance of jobs in the healthcare industry. I am also 50 though. I certainly hope that's not the reason. I will keep my head up and try to stay busy!- #15
- Posted by: Judy
- On: 02/25/2008 20:22:54
Thanks for shedding light on this very important issue. There are many working people - spouses, family members and children included who do not seem to understand what it is like to be out of a job. I have been unemployed since the first week of January because my husband had to relocate, leaving me without a job. I have knocked on every possible door including teaching but as one person commented, who is interested in older workers? I am not yet 50 but close and I find that even with a Master's getting a job is next to impossible. What is happening is that self-esteem issues come into play and family members do not seem to understand, in fact, there is nobody who seems to understand. I have gone and done all types of jobs - all low paying - just to keep my cell phone on so I can be available in the event that a potential employer calls. I have travelled long distances, paid parking in the cities with my last few dollars, used my gas, pay several dollars in tolls, and now I am at a point where I am asking what is the point in trying? But, I know I cannot ever give up so I continue to searh online, offline, and network, in the hope that one day my ship will come in and at that time I won't be at the airport! Cheers.- #16
- Posted by: Rena
- On: 02/25/2008 20:45:37
Peggy:I know exactly how you feel. I was downsized in 2002 and it took 18 months to land a full-time benfitted job. I worked at it for 2 years and got called into the boss's supervisor's office. She demanded that I explain some happenings when our group was out of town. I played dumb, but finally caved and told that my team mates were drinking during working hours and drinking excessively after we completed our assignment. His boss said she had been aware of the situation and just needed verification. She also let me know that I should report any future incidents directly to her (while we were on assignment). I chewed my boss out for putting me in the middle of him and his supervisor and for being made their baby-sitter. Well, the same incidents happened again, but I foolishly thought I covered everything up. When questioned, again I caved and told of the drinking. My team mates made my workplace a living hell--the environment was so hostile. They stuck together and turned everything around where it was my fault and ended up getting me fired. And if that weren't enough, his reference as previous supervisor prevents me from landing a good paying job. My termination was 2 years ago this month and I still have not found full-time employment. Like you, I am second choice. Can't prove it, but the younger, slimmer ones are the ones chosen. One all but told me that was the case with their job (he made the comment that I was not the image the company wanted for that position).Temp assignments help with the incoming money, but don't help with needed benefits (insurance!!). And Peg, I am experiencing the depression and anxiety of rejection. All I can say is that this roller coaster ride ain't for the timid!! I have days that I dread looking at the mail or email because I know those rejection letters are waiting on me. I am so sick and tired of everyone telling me to be patient and a door will open---keep the faith and something will come along---or the one that really gets me-that job wasn't meant to be!!- #17
- Posted by: R. MontBrun
- On: 02/25/2008 20:48:35
It's rough out there! I have been unemployed since just before Christmas, and living on my savings. The hardest part is that I relocated for an opportunity I could not pass by. My contract ended, and I have been looking since. I have gone to several interviews with firms I would love to work for only to come in second. My resume and related experiences are great, but still no work. It's a hard thing to deal with rejection when you know you've got what it takes.- #18
- Posted by: Linda
- On: 02/25/2008 20:57:21
I have known for 6 weeks that my company is closing. Sometimes I feel like knowing everything I've worked so hard to achieve is about to end. The region I live in has little opportunity and I just can't relocate. I'll take the advice and see if it helps relieve my stress level!!!- #19
- Posted by: Romaine
- On: 02/25/2008 21:11:49
I haven't been working since August 2007 and it is extremely hard. Twice in the last 11 years I have been out of a job. I thought that I would at least find a part time job. When you go to a temporary agency, their tests for Word, Excel and PowerPoint are not the same packages that I worked on. When that happens, it is hard to pass the test. I am able to put together a great Powerpoint presentation, used Excel on a daily basis with worksheets and formulas (daily, monthly and annual) and used Word... why do they keep changing the icons for the toolbars???I am doing my best to be positive, but money is running short and the car note is due along with the rent, gas and other utilities... didn't mention not having insurance when I was sick with bronchitis and asthma... I keep telling myself that things will be better soon and to hang in there. Easier said than done. I also have went to an agency that is supposed to help you obtain a job, but all of my interviews seem to be for taking inbound calls when I basically ran the office (IVR, PBX and predictive dialer along with Knowledge Management.. etc.It's hard to take classes when you don't have money for books and transportation to and from class.Hang in there though, believe in yourself and that things will change....- #20
- Posted by: Linda C
- On: 02/25/2008 21:14:11
I have been unemployed since January 2005. I was layed off from a company due to a merger and took a year off to enjoy life. Then I had to care for a sick relative and here I am now with a big gap in my employment history. I worked for one bank for 15 years and another for 10 years but all the recruiters see is the gap. It is not against the law to take some time off of work! I am also 53 years old. I have been looking for a job in Chicago since September 2007. No Luck. I am ready to just give up and not work! Too bad that that is not an option. I am hoping something comes up soon. The article was a interesting and it did give me some ideas such as volunteering etc.- #21
- Posted by: Donna
- On: 02/25/2008 21:31:41
I have been laid off twice in a 4 month time frame. So, I can say I am definitely going through the Kubler-Ross stages. It has now been 2 months without a job and I did have my days when the only thing I could do was just sleep! I did accept a temporary position but it really makes it difficult to go and interview with the normal work hours. Thank you for the encouragement.- #22
- Posted by: Henry Gondorff
- On: 02/25/2008 21:49:04
People over 50 are being discriminated against like crazy. With all the H1-B visa people undercutting American professionals' salaries, people cannot afford to live decent lives anymore. There are so many layoffs because employees are considered "human capital" - ie. just like so many pencils. It will get a lot worse before it gets better.- #23
- Posted by: Randi
- On: 02/25/2008 22:22:29
I've been out of work since last Sept. and it is very stressful and discouraging, but I've kept going, even though I had some temp jobs that didn't last and some part time no-brainer fast=food and retail jobs that don't give me enough hours, let alone pay to cover my bills. My husband's health is starting to take a toll as a result of the extra jobs/hrs he's had to work to cover my lack of substantial income, and now we are on the verge of losing our house if I don't find something soon. I try all the advice I get from pros, networking friends, etc., and it would seem that nothing has worked. I've been on about 20-25 interviews since last Fall, it's hard to tell why I really didn't get a job offer. My resume got revised by a job pro for free, but that hasn't gotten any nibbles either. Conducting a successful job search is as elusive as the books and advice out there telling us how to be successful parents...what works for some doesn't seem to work for everyone, so you just have to keep at it, I guess, eventually I will find something. I'm just getting deeper in debt trying to keep my home, hoping within a month I will find something. After that, then it will be time to say goodbye to everyone and everything I know. Because let me tell you, bankruptcy really tells you who your friends are, and what employer will hire me then? I just don't want to think about that, at least not this month. I've still got some good support people working with me, I'm even getting a job coach that the govt will pay for, so I'm somewhat optimistic. I will keep everyone else who's out of work in my prayers as well.- #24
- Posted by: David Rog
- On: 02/25/2008 22:52:40
WOW!! That's really all I can say, after reading this article. I've been unemployed for just about 1 year now, and I have to tell you, deprressed is an understatement. I was just remarking to someone how I can't understand how employers always end up "finding someone that better meets their qualifications", when I have been a pretty good employee, and have a good resume. Thanks for the article, this gives me things to think about for now!- #25
- Posted by: liz
- On: 02/25/2008 23:44:02
I can relate to Peggy as I have also been out of work since June and this is nowhere near the first time. I agree that age is a very big factor as to not getting positions. Employers seem to think you'll leave as soon as you get a better paying position, but they don't realize there aren't better paying positions out there. So they shouldn't worry and give us older people a break. I have a Masters and am in my 40's, but I think age is still a factor and I think being a woman is a liability as well. There's also too much competition in big cities! I'm not going to move, but again there will come a time when I might be forced to when my savings run out if no job appears!- #26
- Posted by: Perry
- On: 02/25/2008 23:53:26
I agree with all of the comments that have been posted, reading and volunteering does not pay the rent nor put food on the table. I am also over 50 and was down sized in March of 2007 and have not been able to find another job despite my extensive sales background. When unemployment ran out in Novenber I ran across an opportunity to be an independent sales agent for a credit card processing company and have not looked back. Sometimes we may have to look at non traditional opportunities- #27
- Posted by: Tonya
- On: 02/26/2008 08:12:29
I agree with this article I am feeling all of the above. But I also agree with Peggy Shae. It is getting harder and harder to keep accepting the encouraging words and still recieve the door closing in your face. I would love to go back to school and finish my masters, however, what little money I have left I need to spend wisely. There is still no promise of a career or a simple job at this point even after finishing my masters. So why do you do? I thought about relocating also, but I can't up root my family for a possible job and then may become a victim of downsizing again. It is really hard and yes lonely. But I keep getting up every morning hoping and praying this is the day that something comes my way.- #28
- Posted by: Kevin wash
- On: 02/26/2008 08:19:23
Fresh in the market of job hunting, i agree the process of searching is a tedious process. I have lost hope and am now searching for volunteeer opportunities.- #29
- Posted by: Kemi Aduroja
- On: 02/26/2008 08:39:36
thanks alot for the info. just started working but if i had known all these during those months of joblessness, perhaps i wouldnt have jumped senselessly at this one.- #30
- Posted by: martin
- On: 02/26/2008 09:40:36
These are really good ideas, I have been out of work since December. What I have done since then was taken an online auto detailing course, Gotten interviews for detail jobs! and I am currently in the very early stages of starting a mobile auto detailing operation. I highly recommend furthering your education via online. The tuition is easily affordable (Yes, even on unemployment!) Just keep focused and positive!- #31
- Posted by: Regina
- On: 02/26/2008 10:00:14
The article was good as well as some of the comments that I read. Just as some of the others I have now been unemployed since November 1, 07. It has been hard because this is the first time that I have everbeen without a job since I graduated from college. The first three months were the worst because like most I thought that I would find something. I have a Masters degree and a great resume. I present myself professionally at all interviews but nothing has come about. I really thought I was going to have a mental break down last month. However, I have been able to sustain. I am now hopeful that things will turn around for me. Like the article stated, I exercise 3 - 4 mornings a week. I have submitted an application for my Doctoral degree and I have thrown myself into the planning of my 20 year class reunion that is to take place in June. This unplanned time off has allowed me to do some reflecting on myself. Thanks for the article and for the various comments. Both have give me that much more hope.- #32
- Posted by: Kyle
- On: 02/26/2008 10:07:01
I too, am over 50 and out of work for the first time in my life. Like many other posters, I have a great resume and longevity in all of my prior positions. I have felt that age and prior level of earnings have been factors in many of my second place finishes. Of course, no one will ever tell you that.........Best wishes to everyone who finds themselves in the same position. This too shall pass........- #33
- Posted by: Kathie Heroux
- On: 02/26/2008 10:32:58
Working for a very good company for 30+ years and have been promoted to a management position the old fashion way and then having outside investors coming in and robbing the place blind- my once great company went into bankruptcy and closed. I was given the opportunity to return for retraining and graduated with a Business Administration Degree-I have a professional resume even have a magazine article about programs I developed I too have run into discrimination. Human Resources now is the fresh face young individual with maybe 2 years experience and their take on anyone over 50 is that we must be the problem for our companies demize. There maybe laws out there, but individuals that are suppose to be our employees (they do work for us as taxpayers) will never investigate these companies that take good paying jobs and outsource them to India or Pakistan. Any company that outsources should have to document, have tracible criteria that is investigated quarterly, have to post large sums of money for individuals effected by their moves--not the states or federal government picking up the tab and any money these companies have received for government programs should be forfieted with penalties and interest paid back to a fund for good companies that create and maintain companies and employment. I believe for 8 years these organizations have been feeding their corporate profits and executives at the expense of the American people and our economy--no other country in the world allows foreign investor the freedom and the power the United States does--it is time to take back our economy--demand only goods and services (any company that has a call center out of the country is not one that should get our business) that are produced in the United States--demand leadership from our elected officials--all of us need to attend more campaign events and ask question about what these candidates are doing now to stem the tide--still 9 months until the election and their participation during that 9 months in the office they were elected to needs to take center stage not what they promise to do. Those of us that are trying to survive need help NOW! I still remain positive and keep apply for jobs, but I also will keep expressing my displeasure with the war, the poor leadership by elected officials and above all keep informed about what is happening in my world.- #34
- Posted by: Debbie
- On: 02/26/2008 10:33:19
Yes I am in total agreement with everyone. I am 51 and feeling totally inadequate because I am unemployed. I have always worked, am an experienced legal assistant and have lost my job twice in the last 2 years. I also had to have a total hip replacement so I have a few months gap between jobs too. I do feel very strongly that it is my age/looks, I am no longer a young, thin pretty woman and there's not much I can do about that, but I need to work.- #35
- Posted by: Kemya
- On: 02/26/2008 11:24:23
Just reading these posts helps me feel more positive about rejection, to know I'm not alone. I have an MBA, great skills, and still can't seem to "win" a good position. My last NO was because they didn't think my personality was a good fit, after 2 months of interviewing! Never mind that early on it was agreed that I could undoubtedly do the job. It feels like a never ending cycle of interviewing. But we can't give up, we still have to eat! So I try to freelance, it's better than sitting around staring at a phone that doesn't ring, you know?- #36
- Posted by: Jim
- On: 02/26/2008 11:45:08
A few years ago I went to our CEO and told him he had to sell the business he owned for his own good; he listened and finally agreed. I went home and told my wife the story and said "I just want you to understand, it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when...and understand that I'll be looking for another job for at least six months and maybe longer." The company was sold about eight months later and my position became redundant. I started my job search and had some pretty decent luck after a few months, but found it very difficult to get an interview; the other frustration I experienced was that on three occasssions when I had had good interviews and was moving along in the process the companies filed for bankruptcy and everything stopped. In the final analysis I used my eight months to exercise and engage in a degree of self-reflection that I hadn't afforded myself in almost thirty years of steady employment. I accepted a position that gives me a degree of "quality of life" that I had not had in some time and although it is not the senior-level executive compensation that I'd had previously it is fine and serves me well. The other thing that I have been able to do is provide folks out of work or anticipating being so with reemployment counseling and alot of the tools that will help them to rise above their competition. I wish everyone contributing much success. Be patient, but in our tough economic times I would discourage anyone from being too picky; for now, settle for cash-flow.- #37
- Posted by: Michael
- On: 02/26/2008 12:12:24
As the husband of Peggy (see way above), I am all too aware of nearly everything everyone has said. I am 62 years old, and working as a sales rep for a US company that actually makes everything they sell right here in America. Unfortunately, it doesn't pay much, yet. The hope is always there that if I keep at it, the money will get better. Peggy is a terrific employee for whomever she works, incredibly productive and has a great resume with all the best companies. Any company that passes her over when the job fit is as good as several have been foolish and counting it's pennies backwards. The article's suggestions are as good as far as they go, but in spite of the boomer generation being the dominant one in terms of numbers, agism still holds sway, whether spoken or not. I'm not sure which soap box we need to be on to get the message across, but WAKE UP, EMPLOYERS -YOU ARE LOSING THE BEST AND BRIGHTEST JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE WHAT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU! MAKE THEM AN OFFER, YOU MIGHT BE SURPRISED AT WHAT THE RESPONSE IS.- #38
- Posted by: Merian
- On: 02/26/2008 12:20:41
Thank you to all of you who posted comments on this site today! I am 57 and unemployed for 18 months. Reading all of your comments have helped me to understand I am not the only one in this predicament. I was beginning to feel like there was no one else on the plant that was suffering like with the depression, anxiety, loss of self-esteem and all the other ailments that come with being out of work for as long as I have. It seems like we are all in practically the same boat. I am writing to say we cannot give up. Like the other writer said, all of the encouragement to "hang in there" doesn't pay any bills, BUT, it sure helps to keep trying and get out of bed one more day. I too am in jeopardy of loosing my house because of the loss of income. I worked all my life and never collected unemployment and now the system that we all paid into cannot even sustain us until we find work. They kick you right off as soon as you have collected for a few weeks, regardless of how many years you paid in. Be encouraged my friends WE WILL SURVIVE! When you look at the large amount of people who responded to this article, it makes you wonder just how many people who are out there who can't respond, are not encouraged and who just give up. Maybe we should start a site where we can continue to encourage each other. However, sometimes you have to encourage yourself!! Who, knows, this might have saved someone's life today. I still believe in prayer and I will keep all of you in my thoughts and you do the same for me. WE CAN'T GIVE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!- #39
- Posted by: Cathy
- On: 02/26/2008 13:03:53
I have been unemployed now for six months since our company closed the doors last August. It was very unexpected and we did not receive our last check. I have never had to job hunt due to always getting my foot in the door by a referral. My work history, being in the mortgage industry, means I have been looking for a career change which is most challenging (plus I am over 50). I feel the reasons I have not landed a job are due to two main reasons; work and salary history but also I wonder about my age. I have even been told by an employment agency very recently that "they have had no luck in placing people from the mortgage industry in jobs". Prospective employers feel that when (I say IF) the mortgage industry picks back up, that those people will return to that industry. Me, I do not want to go back to that industry. However, at this point, I have to take what I can get if I ever get an offer. I experience depression more than anything thinking that is something happened to my husband, I couldn't even support myself and that is a very uneasy feeling. I have been able to support myself all my life. I try and have faith that this is all in God's plan. I hope everyone out there in this same situation (sooner or later) lands their perfect job!- #40
- Posted by: Sandy
- On: 02/26/2008 13:06:07
I agree with so many of your postings. I am 46 and not as slim/trim as I once was, and I keep coming in second place (I'm sure to younger, thinner competition but I can't prove it). After my company closed I too took some time off, but continued to look for work during that 6 month period. I applied for over 35-40 jobs and only got interviews at a handful of them. I am in the clerical/admin field and am willing to take a lower paying job than I once had as a legal secretary, but guess employers don't believe that. I am so burned out on looking for work that I don't even want to try anymore. It has taken its toll on my marriage and family life (relatives seem to just think I'm lazy, which is far from the case). It is very difficult to stay positive and focused when faced with so much rejection.- #41
- Posted by: Catherine
- On: 02/26/2008 13:31:16
I have read all the postings and am amazed to read that there are so many out there going through the same experienc in trying loate a new position. I especially related to "Romaine's posting (#19. After 1 year to date of job loss, and endlessly searching for a new positio, I have been invited into no more than 3 interviews! Being at a loss of what to do next, I have come to realize that I need to change what I have been doing. But what is that going be? I don't know, possibly something legitimate online? Anyone know of such an opportunity?- #42
- Posted by: Jim
- On: 02/26/2008 13:36:28
These things are all well & good, but it took me almost 3 years after coming to Illinois to get the part time job that I have, & I feel that it is all due to my age as I am 61. As soon as I started assertively confronting the issue of age, I got this job, but it is not enough, & I am still looking. I think that many employers don't even consider me as a long term employee due to my age.- #43
- Posted by: Sophia
- On: 02/26/2008 15:20:14
I agree with Peggy about the feelings she is having about not being able to find employment but what I do disagree with is the fact that age or size is playing a role. I am 26 years old recently graduated with a bachelors and have been looking for a permanent job for 2 years now. Only thing I could snatch up along the way have been internships and I busted my tail for those companies. They seem completely impressed with my work, tell me I have alot going for myself, say that the company should hire me but yet and still, here I am unemployed again. What upsets me more is the same students I worked with that I know for a fact dont do anything and could care less about their job are still there. The manager found some loophole into getting them in their permanently. I have at least 5 variations of my resume, I spend at least a half hour detailing cover letters to specific openings, I can't even get a job working at a grocery store! They tell me I'm over qualified! Just because I'm overqualified means that I have to starve? I'm willing to do what it takes to do the job but they dont want me. I barely get called for interviews and the ones I do get called for I completely nail them but dont get a call back. And hearing from everyone that its going to be ok, someone will hire me is getting tiresome! I've lost count of all the companies I have applied for in this month alone. It's not just the 50+ individuals, its the younger ones too. My bestfriend just became certified to become a police officer and has applied for every position in his state and after the interviews they tell him they need someone that closer fits their requirements. How much more of a fit do they need when all they ask for is State certification and a passing score on their written and physical test and he's done all of that? And he's 27. He just got passed over recently for a position where the department picked an officer 3 times his size and knowingly less skilled. He's about to lose his house now. The job hunt is just not fair all the way around.- #44
- Posted by: 609-397-7638
- On: 02/26/2008 15:53:19
I've been out for five months now, I've been interviewing, but I seem to not make any headway. I was at my last job for over five years, then suddenly terminated for no reason other then the owner wanted to take the company in another direction. I'm over fifty, and no one seems to take this seriously, I've applied for jobs that I'm over qualified for, and can't even seem to land them. I've reduced my salary requirements to the point where it's starting to be a joke. I've even decided that I may be better in the long run to open my own business. I've started to pick up lines, and have had a few bites, but it's a long tedious process to open your own, and funding can be a problem.I'm convinced that the industry I'm in is so full of BS it's not even funny anymore. I'm not a rocket scientist for crying out loud, I sell food, how difficult do they think this is. I've made connections all across the country, I've worked with major chains, and major distributors. I've got contacts a younger less experienced person wouldn't even know where to begin looking. All I seem to get is that we are in the beginning stages of hiring, I turn around and two days later they hired some one else. Can anyone explain this?Sorry for rambling, and venting but it's down right depressing, and I don't care what these so called experts have to say, it hurts.- #45
- Posted by: Monna
- On: 02/26/2008 16:30:53
It has helped me to read that so many women are in the same predicament as I am. I was just notified after another interview that there was a better candidate yet again. And I was recommended to this large non profit from one of the Directors I know socially. I cannot prove anything either but I know it must be due to age, I'm 59 and salary history. I gave them lower than the salary range I was looking for, but it was probably too high for this non profit. I tried to find out what was their preferred range but was not able to get that information.It is really too depressing to continually come in second! I got to hang in there though, I don't have a family, nor close friends nearby. It is very trying to be in this cruel world all alone.- #46
- Posted by: Don Messick
- On: 02/26/2008 16:41:51
Great piece. Very thought provoking and encouraging. I have been off for about 15 months after 21 years with the same employer. I tried my hand at real estate for six months, spending time and money that I now regret given the state of that industry today. Recently (over the past 90 days) I started networking with absolutely anyone and everyone and have had 5 interviews. All of them went exceedingly well (one guy actually invited me to a game of golf after awarding the position to another candidate). AND, I am waiting for the answer even here today, to the question of whether or not I will get the position that I interview for a few weeks ago. I know that I am absolutely the most qualified candidate, and so do they. But I am also 53 years old. It is a job that I can do in my sleep and has great earnings potential. But I am having one heck of a time being Patient. I really, really want to call and test the water to see if I got it, but I don't want to bug (bother) them either. Patience is after all, something that we are supposed to learn with time. Yes, I am running out of money. Yes, it is frustrating. Yes, I have second guessed myself about a million times. AND YES, I get depressed. But I do stay busy every day. I read, I work on the house and I network. And today, after reading this piece, I decided to go play golf (make a little investment in my mental and physical health). Of course, I am such a goofy optimist that I don't rule out my meeting someone out on the course who may just be looking for someone exactly like me. Hey, it could happen! But what I am not going to do is sit around feeling sorry for myself. As has already been said, 'this too shall pass'. Keep your chins (pun intended) up and make the most out of this great day.- #47
- Posted by: Todd
- On: 02/26/2008 16:54:25
I had been working on a contract funded by the state until a new governor came on board and changed everything. My contract was cut due to funding. I found a low-wage job to fill the gap but it doesn't pay the bills. One recruiter has "promising leads" but have heard nothing since activating. I follow up - nothing. I have been able to piece together part time opportunities but it doesn't bring back the 401K and other benefits that others seem to have.- #48
- Posted by: Brad
- On: 02/26/2008 17:40:44
I've been out of permanent work for about 5 years now. After working at some long-term assignments that I had hoped to turn into permanent jobs, I realized that wasn't going to happen as it had in the past. When I approached someone at a temp agency last week, I was told I wouldn't qualify for a sales job listed on their board because I'd had too many temp jobs. So be careful about getting side-tracked from pursuing a job that you really need. By the way, I ended up using the last of my 401K plan a couple of weeks ago.- #49
- Posted by: Dennis
- On: 02/26/2008 17:50:00
After reading alot of comments, I don't feel as bad as I thought. I've been unemployed for 3 1/2 months so far and haven't had more than a handful of interviews. Face it folks, the competition is fierce! you need to try and stand out, make that once a week follow up call to keep your name fresh in their minds, call the day after the interview to say thanks and looking forward to hearing from them etc etc. Some of you may do this, others don't. Networking can help. Maybe a career change is another person's solution. Believe me, I have my good days and not so good. Sounds like alot of us out here worked for many years at their previous positions and now are finding it difficult to adjust. Hang in there, keep positive, keep looking, ask friends/family for leads if they can. Best wishes to all!- #50
- Posted by: Dawn
- On: 02/26/2008 18:50:17
The law state that companies should not discriminate because of age. We have all been victims of this. I am sure the State of Illinois unemployment office have seen this trend of 50+ losing their jobs when applying for unemployment compensation. With compensation lasting only for 6 months, I wonder if they even care that we now have no other means of supporting ourselves? What is the government doing about this, don't they see this?- #51
- Posted by: Antoine
- On: 02/26/2008 19:34:07
This is a great piece. It helps to know that there are other people who are struggling to find employment. I feel for the people who are a little older and it seems like they have the right credentials but is still not being considered. I have a college degree and also some military experience but I can't seem to find the right job that I can spend 20+ years doing and retire. It becomes stressful each day I am not working because I have a big family (5 kids) and they have to eat and the bills are starting to pile up. My wife is a real estate agent and we all know how the market is. My main concern is that my children don't have any medical insurance. We all know that anything can happen at any time when it comes to children. I will try to do some of things suggested to see if that helps. I have been out of work for about a month now. Right now, I am seriously considering going back into the Navy just for the security of a steady paycheck, great insurance and a retirement to look forward to. I hope everyone has some luck soon.- #52
- Posted by: Yota Knox
- On: 02/26/2008 20:00:58
I have been out of work now since mid June 2007 and it is very frustrating. This is the first time that I have been out of work since finishing college in 1992. I can relate to so many of you on different levels. I am 40 years old and have worked in healthcare for the most part since 1992 and did not think for one minute that I would be out of work for so long. I relocated to Massachusetts from NYC in October and although I have gotten interview calls, there have been no offers (I didn't get any calls in NYC). Many companies want you to list salary requirements or salary history and it seems if yours is too high or you made too much, you can forget it. I wish they would give people the opportunity to make a decision about salary for themselves. It bugs me that they want this information for past positions that are not even related to what you are applying for. Like many have said, I am even looking into lesser paying work in call centers that I did part-time in NYC and I can't even get a job here doing that. Bills need to be paid regardless. I have read about people talking of being overqualified and getting turned down but I never really thought I would be experiencing it. My husband seems to think that I am not serious about finding work and that I am being "nonchalant" about it. That is so far from the truth. It is hard but I can't give up faith. I have nothing else to hold onto. My savings are gone and he has been sustaining from month to month with seasonal/temp work here and there. I am going to print some of your stories and give him to read, maybe then he will understand. I wish you all the best.- #53
- Posted by: Eric
- On: 02/27/2008 01:11:29
I just want Peggy ( the # 3 posting ) to know that she is in good company.I am living her painful experience and I just hope that she is lucky like me and has good family support. It can be tough Peggy. I know.I wish you the best. Try reading books that might help you.- #54
- Posted by: Kevin Connelly
- On: 02/27/2008 11:42:50
I guess it is true that misery loves company, as it helps to hear that you are not the only one struggling. I'm 51 and left my job for a position that was to be vacated, then wasn't. I've been out of work since August 07. I have three smaller children and a wife who's been out of the workforce for 5 years. We're sinking very deep and I have never been so frustrated or worried before. This is my first time out of work and although I've worked many areas, never had to look before. This internet seaching seems to be a crap game and I would kiss the ground for just a few interviews. It seems unfortunate that I have a very different background at being successful at many things because I don't think I get past the recruiters. I am truly at a loss for what to do. As far as the article, I would love to do fill time with exercise and reading, volunteering and learning, but then everyone worries I'm not looking for work. So, most of my time is wasted in front of this dumb screen. I hope for the unemployed everyday and will throw all of you into my thoughts.- #55
- Posted by: sarasota,Fl
- On: 02/27/2008 14:30:24
I have been doing all the things that this articles says but i still have been out of work for over two months now and have gone on dozens of interviews. At first I thought it was just me but i have a solid work history i have only had two jobs in the past ten years which I know employers like to see I also have received my life and health license I can bartend and do many different things but still no job has come for me. I'm not the only one either a few of my friends are in the same boat is it just the economy or am I doomed to be living in the streets real soon?? need major help in Sarasota- #56
- Posted by: Carole
- On: 02/27/2008 19:19:25
Someone ought to print this posting and send it to the President and Congress! After all, they have allowed the current economic situation to come about. I want to work, and I'm an experienced person with a good work ethic. But like many of you, I belong to the largest cohort of people in US history, so I guess employers feel that they can be as picky, fickle, and down-right disrespectful as they please when there are so many of us to choose from. I have been unemployed since the middle of August, 2007, and I started looking before my contract expired. Before I break into my meager savings, I will move back to New England to be close to family, and use those funds to start my own business. It can't be any tougher than looking for a job has been! I've supported myself all these years, so it's hard to admit defeat and ask my family for help when they have bills to pay themselves. If this is part of God's plan, I'm guessing that it's a group test rather than a test of individuals. This whole country needs to change direction, and fast!- #57
- Posted by: Tanya
- On: 02/27/2008 21:33:52
I wish this newsletter had come to me a few months ago, I could have used the motivation. It seems I have gotten over the slump (I hope). I think I will still include some of these suggestions into my everyday routine. I am hoping that I am on the verge of becoming employed, I have a return interview coming up. I have a positive mindset for this position. I would like to know about a support group to help you during your time of job seeking, I didn't know something like that exsisted.- #58
- Posted by: Jim
- On: 02/28/2008 08:56:12
It is most disconcerning to see how discouraged so many of the bloggers are; it is critical that you stay as positive as possible or the lack of spirit will show in interviews and other contacts. If you haven't done it, I encourage everyone to make a list of everyone you know (at least 100 names) and start contacting everyone asking for a brief meeting; tell them what your circumstances are and ask them to keep you in mind if they hear of any opportunities; people want to help, but they need to know that someone needs help. It is no secret that the most important element to a successful job hunt is networking; sixty to seventy percent of jobs landed are the result of networking, while on-line job boards result in no more than five to seven percent. Please network, network, network! I received a call from a recruiter just yesterday and had a nice chat; it was just a random business call for her and she casually asked if I knew of any bi-lingual candidates for one of her client's customer service operations, I put out my feelers and just by this morning I was able to forward contact info to her on several qualified candidates that were seeking opportunities; my point is simply that one never knows who will establish inroads to our next opportunity. My next point is that once you land your next opportunity do not stop looking because in today's world anything can happen anywhere at anytime so always be prepared mentally and emotionally. Very best wishes to all for success in the hunt.- #59
- Posted by: P shah
- On: 02/29/2008 07:28:56
I agree to the suggestions. In fact, I am experiencing the same. Reflect, yes, I am trying to analyze what has gone wrong & how I could have avoided it. Doing SWOT of my career gives me feeling of loosing your status. my is peculiar case, where due to ego clash with the MD (of Owner driven Company)where I have worked for 24+ yrs (my first job & started working with company with present MD's father's time). Difficult to digest & not able to approach known faces in Industry, due to my status (regarded by outsider as part of owner's family Man).everyone is interested to know why now? Can anyone give me solution? Ours is peculiar industry where only 2/3 big companies are operating and my experience is counted by them only.- #60
- Posted by: Linda
- On: 03/02/2008 18:13:11
create a blog while your in between jobs...great way to do something you enjoy, meet people, and may be something you can even utilize in your resume or on interviews...managing a blog requires writing skills, time management, marketing, and some technical skills so with a little effort it's a great way to use down time...- #61
- Posted by: Monica
- On: 03/03/2008 19:48:41
The information is dead on! These are the things that I have been doing since my lay-off. I too have been laid-off for over a year now and this is also my second time in 4 years that this happened to me. I have gone through all of the stages and back several times. I say to all of you out there in the same situation as I am, "Keep your thoughts positive and do what you can." I have a Masters degree and feel that I may have wasted precious money and time on acquiring these degrees, but I stay focused and know that this too shall pass. I am returning to school to obtain another trade (certificate) within my field in the summer and pray that something positive happens in the economy by then. We all get rejected and second guess ourselves when we are faced with these types of situations…don’t give in and don’t give up. You are not alone.- #62
- Posted by: Olga Sundstrom
- On: 04/11/2008 10:19:46
I agree with Peggy and several others. I have been unemployed since Novemer of 2007. At first, I had great success in getting interviews with former employers but since the year started it's slowed down and no stopped. I've even flown and driven out of state for job interviews with still no success. One of the problems that I've encountered is the dreaded question...."What is your minimum salary expectation"? In most interviews that has been one of the last questios, however, I've also been asked that questions by recruiters on the phone without even getting an opportunity to discuss the job. The conversation will start on how impressive my resume is and then the salary question. I've tried to steer away from that as much as possible by asking them what the job salary range is and sometimes they will provide it and others will tell me that they need to hear my minimum requirement. My prior experience has been in banking operations and management; I have many transferrable skills. There are many jobs out there that will specialize their skills so much that it does not allow for another professional from a different industry to discuss their talents and capabilities; and that makes it hard for the job hunter to get noticed. I also agree with Kevin C. that job hunting on the internet is awful! Most employers want you to fill out applications and profiles on their websites, you cannot show up in person because you must have a specific position in order to apply. I've also tried applying for part time, clerical, and administrative positions; once you send them your resume you are over qualified. I'm also concerned about taking a job making less than I was making because you appear desparate to employers and it will become more difficult to work your way to what you were making. On the other hand, it's a paycheck and it's better than nothing. While I know that I cannot give up, it's becoming harder everyday and it's taking a tole on my family as well. My financial reserves are drained and frankly, so am I.- #63
- Posted by: Barbara Wulf MS, GCDF, CPCC
- On: 04/26/2008 12:32:07
Hi Readers...I am thrilled to see so many of you leaving a message on the article I wrote on the Job-Hunting Blues. It's a tough job market out there, no question about that. I share your concerns about not having insurance, worries about paying bills, buying food and putting gas in your tank. I can easily see how one can become depressed and hopeless. Call me crazy, but I encourage you to find the emotional support you need to keep you from spiraling down. These are trying times and despite the challenge, I encourage you remember, this is not All About YOU, it's about the economy. Work on self-preservation...walk, read, go to the library, go to the park, go to the Workforce Centers, plant a garden (seeds are cheap), go to church, call a friend, go to a work support group...just go. Refuse to get stuck, rigid, breakable and fragile. That sense of desperation will not fuel your ongoing job search and if you get an interview, you will be flat and not very employable in that "state of mind."I encourage all of you sign up for my free ezine, OWN IT, LIVE IT, WORK IT at my website. It has some tips for you. I also want to remind you that sometimes I see people who are not working "smart" just working "hard." Make sure you are working your job search in the most efficient way and I encourage all of you to "think outside the box." Write an IMPACT Letter not merely a Cover Letter. Do some cold calling and tell people you are looking. In the meantime, you might take a job at Starbucks or stocking shelves at the grocery store. It's spring and you can do lawn mowing or maybe build a deck for someone. Spring always means some construction, fix up and clean up. Canvas your neighborhood for cleaning jobs, window washing, dog walking, etc. It's about getting going, getting up and getting momentum. Remember Gumby? I heard someone once say, "Blessed are flexible for they shall not get bent out of shape!" Go Gumby!